Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

05/02/2022 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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03:16:53 PM Start
03:17:21 PM HB301
04:32:34 PM HB382
04:56:32 PM SB190
05:10:14 PM Workers' Compensation Appeal Commission
05:11:56 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 301 UTILITIES: RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ HB 382 INSULIN COVERAGE:INSURANCE;MEDICAID TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 382(HSS) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 190 REGULATORY COMMISSION AK/REFUSE UTILITIES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
          HB 301-UTILITIES: RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:17:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 301, "An Act relating to  the establishment of                                                               
a renewable portfolio standard  for regulated electric utilities;                                                               
and providing for an effective  date."  [Before the committee was                                                               
CSHB 301(ENE).]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS opened invited testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:17:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS ROSE,  Executive Director, Renewable Energy  Alaska Project                                                               
(REAP), provided  invited testimony  on HB  301 via  a PowerPoint                                                               
presentation  titled "Support  for  HB 301,"  dated  5/2/22.   He                                                               
turned to  the second slide  and noted  that REAP is  a statewide                                                               
nonprofit  organization   that  has   been  working   to  promote                                                               
renewable energy and  energy efficiency since 2004.   He moved to                                                               
the third  slide, "REAP Education  & Programs," and  related that                                                               
REAP  has multiple  education programs  in both  urban and  rural                                                               
Alaska,   including   science,   technology,   engineering,   and                                                               
mathematics  (STEM)   education  in   the  schools   so  children                                                               
understand where  their energy  comes from, as  well as  work for                                                               
development  to  make sure  there  are  people  in the  state  to                                                               
operate,  maintain,  and  optimize renewable  energy  and  energy                                                               
efficiency projects into the future.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE showed the fourth  slide, "REAP Advocacy," and recounted                                                               
that  REAP has  been  involved  in advocacy  since  2008 when  it                                                               
helped pass the Renewable Energy  Fund, for which the legislature                                                               
has  appropriated  $275  million  to date  for  renewable  energy                                                               
projects around the state.   More recently, REAP supported Senate                                                               
Bill 123, Railbelt Grid Reform,  which passed [in 2020] to create                                                               
the first electric reliability organizations  in the state, which                                                               
will affect the Railbelt.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE spoke  to the fifth slide, "Why the  Railbelt Needs More                                                               
Renewable Energy."   He  said the  Railbelt needs  more renewable                                                               
energy because  the region is dangerously  [80 percent] dependent                                                               
on one,  high-priced fuel   Cook  Inlet natural gas.   Because of                                                               
that, he stated, the Railbelt's  electricity rates are very high,                                                               
about  twice as  much is  paid  for Cook  Inlet gas  as Lower  48                                                               
utilities pay  for their gas.   He pointed out that  the Railbelt                                                               
has  renewable energy  resources, including  wind, solar,  hydro,                                                               
geothermal, biomass, and tidal.   He further pointed out that the                                                               
Railbelt has  a history of inaction,  it took about 40  years for                                                               
SB 123 to  pass to create a mechanism for  the Railbelt utilities                                                               
to work together.  The Railbelt  has no energy policy that really                                                               
focuses on  ensuring that Railbelt  consumers are  protected, Mr.                                                               
Rose continued,  so SB 123 did  a lot by creating  a mechanism to                                                               
ensure that  regional planning will  be done  in the future.   If                                                               
passed, HB 301  would be executed through  that regional planning                                                               
process, he explained.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE  proceeded to the  sixth slide, "Declining Wind  & Solar                                                               
Prices Compared  to Natural Gas."   He  said the graph  shows how                                                               
quickly solar  and wind prices  have come down, with  solar (gold                                                               
line) coming  down about 90  percent over  the last 10  years and                                                               
wind  (blue  line)  coming  down  about  70  percent.    He  drew                                                               
attention to  the average cost  of natural gas (dotted  line) and                                                               
noted that  wind and solar  are now competitive with  natural gas                                                               
in  the Lower  48.   He reiterated  that about  twice as  much is                                                               
being paid for  Cook Inlet gas and said a  strong argument can be                                                               
made that  wind and solar  are competitive in the  Railbelt right                                                               
now.   He pointed  out that  the circles  on the  graph represent                                                               
individual  contracts  between  utilities and  independent  power                                                               
producers and the bigger the circle the bigger the contract.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:21:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ,  regarding  declining wind  and  solar                                                               
prices, noted that  a federal tax credit has helped  make solar a                                                               
lot less costly  for Americans.  She offered her  belief that the                                                               
credit expires  in 2024, and  asked whether an extension  of this                                                               
credit has been introduced federally.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE replied that there  have been discussions in Congress to                                                               
continue to  extend the production tax  credit, but as of  now he                                                               
doesn't know of any package that it is in.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE resumed his presentation  and addressed the bar graph on                                                               
the  seventh   slide,  "Levelized  Cost  of   Energy  Comparison                                                                
Unsubsidized Analysis."   He explained  that this  analysis, done                                                               
every  year   by  the  consultant  group   Lazard,  compares  the                                                               
unsubsidized cost of all different  energy resources.  He related                                                               
that the cost of renewable  energy resources, solar and wind, are                                                               
roughly $30,  $28, and $26  a megawatt  hour (MWh), which  is now                                                               
the cheapest unsubsidized electricity that  can be produced.  For                                                               
conventional  resources,  he continued,  the  cost  from a  fully                                                               
depreciated nuclear plant is $29/MWh  while the cost from a newly                                                               
built  nuclear plant  would  be $130-$204/MWh;  the  cost from  a                                                               
fully depreciated combined  cycle natural gas plant is  as low as                                                               
$24/MWh while the cost from  a newly built combined cycle natural                                                               
gas plant would  be $45-$74/MWh.  The Railbelt,  he specified, is                                                               
producing Cook Inlet gas closer to the price of $74.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE displayed the eighth  slide, "Net electricity generation                                                               
from  wind and  other sources  in  selected states  (2020)."   He                                                               
pointed out  that 20 percent  of all the electricity  received in                                                               
Texas is  now from wind  and that  58 percent of  all electricity                                                               
produced in Iowa is wind power.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE discussed the nineth  slide, "Declining Costs of Lithium                                                               
Ion Batteries."  He said an  important part of the picture is the                                                               
cost  of energy  storage, at  least  in the  cost of  lithium-ion                                                               
batteries.    A sharp  decline  is  being  seen  in the  cost  of                                                               
lithium-ion  batteries;  a  large  driver for  that  is  electric                                                               
vehicles,  but  other  consumer products  are  using  lithium-ion                                                               
batteries  thereby  creating  a  greater  economy  of  scale  and                                                               
driving the price down.  The  price of energy storage is expected                                                               
to continue  going down, he  continued, which can  help integrate                                                               
variable renewables like wind and solar.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE turned to the  tenth slide, "Sources of U.S. electricity                                                               
generation, 2020."   He  specified that  renewables are  about 20                                                               
percent of  the current  mix, with  the percentage  increasing as                                                               
the price of these resources goes down.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE spoke  to the eleventh slide, "Renewable  & Clean Energy                                                               
Standards."  He  explained that the map depicts  the states where                                                               
there are already either renewable  energy portfolio standards or                                                               
clean energy  standards.  Thirty states  have renewable portfolio                                                               
standards, which  is what  HB 301  started out  as, he  said, and                                                               
five states  have clean  energy standards.   These  standards, he                                                               
added, drive the portfolios toward more clean energy.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:26:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROSE  proceeded  to  the twelfth  slide,  "The  Railbelt  is                                                               
Dangerously  Dependent on  High-Priced Cook  Inlet Natural  Gas."                                                               
He reiterated that the Railbelt's  portfolio is heavily dependent                                                               
on just one resource and noted  that that resource is provided by                                                               
a virtual monopoly, Hilcorp.   He further noted that the Railbelt                                                               
doesn't have  a lot of factors  that are going to  see its prices                                                               
drop:  demand  is flat, production costs in Cook  Inlet are high,                                                               
infrastructure is  aging, and  the state  gas subsidies  for Cook                                                               
Inlet are now unsustainable.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROSE moved  to the  thirteenth slide,  "Published Prevailing                                                               
Values for  Cook Inlet Gas  ($ per  MCF)," a graph  depicting the                                                               
price of Cook Inlet natural gas from  1994 to 2022.  He said Cook                                                               
Inlet gas  is now  in the  range of $8  [per thousand  cubic feet                                                               
(MCF)], while the  Henry Hub price in the Lower  48 is around $4,                                                               
which went up  significantly in the last year.   [The Railbelt's]                                                               
natural gas prices are very  high despite being produced in-state                                                               
because of the very small market.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROSE reviewed  the  fourteenth  slide, "Renewable  Portfolio                                                               
Standard Assessment for Alaska's Railbelt."   He related that the                                                               
governor asked  the National  Renewable Energy  Laboratory (NREL)                                                               
to  look  at  whether  80   percent  renewables  by  2040  was  a                                                               
possibility.   The  NREL study  found  two things:   1)  Multiple                                                               
pathways exist  for the  Railbelt to  achieve 80  percent without                                                               
impacting  the  reliability  of  the   grid;  2)  An  80  percent                                                               
[renewable portfolio  standard (RPS)]  will save  consumers $400-                                                               
$500 million  a year in natural  gas fuel prices.   But, he said,                                                               
the next question i:  How much will it cost to get there?                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.   ROSE   turned   to  the   fifteenth   slide,   "Preliminary                                                               
Benefit/Cost Analysis  of NREL's RPS  Scenario 3."   He explained                                                               
that  Alan   Mitchell  of  Analysis   North  did   a  preliminary                                                               
benefit/cost   analysis  of   NREL's   Scenario   3  using   very                                                               
conservative assumptions.   He said  Mr. Mitchell found  that the                                                               
capital cost of  getting to 80 percent wind and  solar along with                                                               
a little  bit of  hydro would  be $3.2  billion compared  to $6.7                                                               
billion of fuel cost savings, a 2:1 ratio of savings.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE  showed the sixteenth  slide, "A New Railbelt  ERO Would                                                               
Execute HB 301."   He pointed out that Senate  Bill 123, the bill                                                               
passed two  years ago, now has  created a mechanism to  execute a                                                               
policy like this.  He stated he  is part of a group that has been                                                               
meeting for the  last two years to develop an  application to the                                                               
Regulatory  Commission of  Alaska (RCA),  which was  submitted at                                                               
the end of  March.  If the RCA certificates  that group, he said,                                                               
it  would  become  the first  electric  reliability  organization                                                               
(ERO)  in  Alaska,  and  the   group  would  be  required  to  do                                                               
integrated resource  planning for the entire  region, which would                                                               
do technical  and economic  feasibility on  a range  of portfolio                                                               
options.  So, he continued,  if the legislature specified a goal,                                                               
then the ERO would do the  analysis to find the portfolios to get                                                               
there.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:29:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROSE   suggested  three   amendments  for   the  committee's                                                               
consideration.  First, he said,  is the initial requirement of 25                                                               
percent by 2030.  The original  bill, he noted, had a requirement                                                               
in 2025  and then 30 percent  by 2030.  He  suggested moving that                                                               
requirement back to 30 percent  and moving the timeline somewhere                                                               
between 2025  and 2030.  He  stated that it is  important to keep                                                               
moving  forward  rather  than allowing  complacency  and  waiting                                                               
until 2030  before reaching these  initial goals  because getting                                                               
to  30  percent  by  the  next goal  is  possible.    Second,  he                                                               
suggested that  the proposed  fine be  raised from  $20 a  MWh to                                                               
closer to  $50 a  MWh, which  is about  the national  average for                                                               
these kinds of fines.  Third,  he suggested that the clean energy                                                               
credits  scheme  be  reorganized  and stated  that  [REAP]  would                                                               
provide detailed technical comments on that.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE  concluded his presentation with  the seventeenth slide,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     HB 301 Would:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   • Diversify the region's generation portfolio and                                                                            
     increase resiliency                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   • Displace high-priced natural gas fuel, and save                                                                            
     hundreds of millions of dollars every year                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • Utilize local, flat-priced renewable resources                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   • Not impact reliability on the grid                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   • Keep Alaska competitive in a fast-changing world,                                                                          
     increase energy independence and meet consumer demand                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   • Support electrification of transportation and heat                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   • Create jobs, spur statewide innovation and keep                                                                            
     precious energy dollars circulating in the state's                                                                         
     economy                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   • Establish a standard that triggers action                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROSE added  that REAP  believes all  these requirements  are                                                               
achievable even faster than the current legislation requires.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIE ESTEY, Director, External  Affairs & Strategic Initiatives,                                                               
Matanuska Electric Association  (MEA), provided invited testimony                                                               
during the hearing  on HB 301.  She concurred  with Mr. Rose that                                                               
diversifying the  energy portfolio is  an important step  for the                                                               
Railbelt.   She stated that  utilities in the Railbelt  have been                                                               
very clear in  actions and testimony that  they support effective                                                               
policy for  creating a  diversified energy  portfolio.   She said                                                               
surveys  show  that  70-80  percent  of  MEA's  members  in  this                                                               
conservative  district  want some  sort  of  carbon reduction  or                                                               
renewable   energy   portfolio,   but   this   support   declines                                                               
significantly when  members are asked  about the effect  on rates                                                               
or  reliability.   So, she  continued,  what MEA  hears from  its                                                               
members  is that  they are  interested in  innovation and  energy                                                               
diversification, but  they want to  make sure that  MEA's primary                                                               
responsibility  around  reliability and  rates  is  kept full  as                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ESTEY  noted that  MEA's  members  are constituents  of  the                                                               
committee's members, which is why  MEA is before the committee to                                                               
share how  it believes HB  301 can  be adjusted and  smart policy                                                               
made because  the time to  make a transition  is right now.   She                                                               
recounted that  in testimony before  the House  Special Committee                                                               
on  Energy,  Jenn  Miller, CEO  of  Renewable  Independent  Power                                                               
Producer  ("Renewable IPP"),  stated that  the Railbelt  is at  a                                                               
critical time  for transition, the  transition is big,  and there                                                               
should be  no pretending that  it is going  to be easy,  but that                                                               
doesn't mean  it shouldn't be  done; it  means it should  be done                                                               
right and it  starts here with policy.  So,  Ms. Estey continued,                                                               
that is why [MEA] is before  the committee today.  She noted that                                                               
Renewable  IPP  has  brought on  cost-effective  solar  power  in                                                               
Willow and [will soon be doing the same] in Houston.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY offered MEA's belief  that the purpose section added in                                                               
CSHB 301(ENE)  is well written  and clearly  describes attributes                                                               
of  a successful  and sustainable  clean energy  standard.   This                                                               
addition  is appreciated,  she said,  because it  brings everyone                                                               
together  around common  goals.   She  stated  that the  Railbelt                                                               
utilities  before the  committee today  have worked  earnestly to                                                               
revise the  bill to provide  cost and reliability  protection for                                                               
consumers as well  as due consideration for the  realities of the                                                               
Railbelt's current  limited system.   Also, she pointed  out, the                                                               
Railbelt has few  rate payers to spread costs over,  so that must                                                               
be considered in a transition and be part of the plan.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY noted  that the goals listed in the  purpose section of                                                               
HB 301  include to minimize  costs [to consumers], a  priority of                                                               
MEA.    While  there  are  many  positive  reasons  to  make  the                                                               
transition, she stated, the rate  impact will be to MEA's members                                                               
so  it must  be done  right to  limit that  impact.   She further                                                               
noted that  the goals  in the  purpose section  of the  bill also                                                               
include to  provide price stability to  enhance opportunities for                                                               
economic  growth, maximum  grid resiliency,  and minimize  carbon                                                               
emissions.   For member-owned cooperatives,  she said,  those are                                                               
all  very important  parts,  each  equal, in  how  this is  moved                                                               
forward.   She commended  the House  Special Committee  on Energy                                                               
and  Chair  Schrage  for  their  efforts to  listen  to  all  the                                                               
stakeholders involved and bring  a committee substitute (CS) that                                                               
has a  significant amount of  support.  She offered  MEA's belief                                                               
that the  bill is very  close to  something that can  achieve the                                                               
goals established in the purpose section.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY  deferred to Mr.  Brian Hickey  to address some  of the                                                               
topics  brought  up  in  testimony   [before  the  House  Special                                                               
Committee on Energy].                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:38:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN   HICKEY,  Chief   Operating   Officer,  Chugach   Electric                                                               
Association, provided invited testimony  during the hearing on HB
301.   He offered appreciation to  the committee and to  the [the                                                               
House Special  Committee on  Energy and Chair  Schrage] to  get a                                                               
spectrum of  comments before deciding.   He submitted  that there                                                               
will be  an achievable and  sustainable product that can  be done                                                               
in a technically effective way.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY drew  attention to  page 10,  Figure 4,  of the  NREL                                                               
study,  "Renewable  Portfolio  Standard Assessment  for  Alaska's                                                               
Railbelt."   He said NREL did  not do a reliability  analysis but                                                               
did run  a production  costing model  which tells  whether enough                                                               
capacity is had in every hour a  day to meet load.  A significant                                                               
amount of work  needs to be done to do  the reliability analysis,                                                               
he advised, and NREL was upfront about that in its assessment.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY stated that Section  42.05.785(a) is the large project                                                               
preapproval process from the language  of Senate Bill 123.  Those                                                               
projects, he  said, cannot be  completed if they  are detrimental                                                               
to the  load serving entity  (LSE) achieving its goals  under the                                                               
renewable portfolio standard (RPS).   That section of Senate Bill                                                               
123, he  explained, was put  in place  so that local  areas could                                                               
develop  reliability  projects  to meet  local  reliability,  and                                                               
typically  those must  be dispatchable  resources.   However,  he                                                               
noted, wind and solar are  non-dispatchable because they come and                                                               
go when  they come and  go.   Therefore, he advised  that section                                                               
constrains   those  local   regions  from   building  reliability                                                               
projects that  are necessary  and have not  been included  in the                                                               
integrated resource  plan (IRP)  that comes  out of  the electric                                                               
reliability organization (ERO).                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:40:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY explained  that the ERO was formed in  Senate Bill 123,                                                               
and  the  ERO  brings  all the  stakeholders  -  utilities,  non-                                                               
utilities, independent power producers,  the State of Alaska, and                                                               
consumer advocates -  around the table to  talk about reliability                                                               
standards and integrated resource planning.   The ERO, she noted,                                                               
has an  independent staff  that will  help in  coming up  with an                                                               
integrated resource plan.   She stated that there is  going to be                                                               
lots of  public process,  lots of transparency,  and lots  of fun                                                               
money to  be spent  coming up with  an integrated  resource plan.                                                               
She said  she agrees  with Mr.  Rose's statement  that that  is a                                                               
natural place for these two  efforts to merge, but qualified that                                                               
she agrees with him  on a different level.  There  is going to be                                                               
lots   of  conversation,   transparency,  and   involvement,  she                                                               
reiterated, and  having a clean  energy standard out in  front of                                                               
that basically gives that group the  answers, and that is one way                                                               
for policy members to impact  that.  Since a previous legislature                                                               
has  already  impowered  that  group   of  stakeholders  to  come                                                               
together as  approved by the RCA  and come up with  an integrated                                                               
resource  plan, she  continued,  one suggestion  is  to have  the                                                               
current  goals perhaps  confirmed by  a feedback  loop from  that                                                               
process back  into policy.   That is something to  consider while                                                               
going through this process, she said.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY  pointed out that  there was no real  economic analysis                                                               
in the NREL study because NREL did  not have the time or scope to                                                               
do so.   She offered support  for a second phase  of NREL studies                                                               
to help confirm  the numbers and economics.  She  noted that NREL                                                               
did do an analysis of the  potential fuel savings but the cost to                                                               
achieve  those  was not  included.    Mr. Mitchell's  preliminary                                                               
benefit/cost analysis  was a great  start, she continued,  but it                                                               
would be  good to  have further  conversation and  vetting around                                                               
that.   She related  that the utilities  started doing  their own                                                               
economic  analysis  but realized  that  it  probably wouldn't  be                                                               
credible.  She  therefore suggested having NREL do  a similar and                                                               
more in-depth analysis  than Mr. Mitchell's given  that NREL does                                                               
this for other places all the time.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  informed the committee that  significant transmission                                                               
investment in  the Railbelt  will be  required to  move renewable                                                               
power from one location to another.   He said there are currently                                                               
two transmissions lines  that tie the three areas  together.  The                                                               
Anchorage  and   the  Kenai  line,  owned   by  Chugach  Electric                                                               
Association,  moves about  75 megawatts,  he specified,  which is                                                               
about 10  percent of  the peak  load of  the Railbelt.   It  is a                                                               
single  contingency line,  he explained,  so  when it  is out  of                                                               
service there  is no  access to  [the Bradley  Lake Hydroelectric                                                               
Project] resources.  Nor, he  added, would Chugach have access to                                                               
[the proposed Dixon Diversion Hydro  Project ("Dixon Creek"], nor                                                               
would Chugach  be able to  carry the  energy from Dixon  Creek on                                                               
that  line.    Responding  to Co-Chair  Spohnholz,  he  said  the                                                               
proposed Dixon project is located  near the Bradley Lake facility                                                               
on the Kenai Peninsula on Kachemak Bay.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY said the [second  transmission line] from Anchorage to                                                               
Fairbanks carries  about 80  megawatts, about  10 percent  of the                                                               
peak flow, and  it is a single contingency line  that is going to                                                               
cost a fair  amount of money.  Federal  infrastructure funding is                                                               
actively being sought  for this, he related, and  it is important                                                               
to pass  HB 414 and  SB 241 to  give the Alaska  Energy Authority                                                               
(AEA) the  receipt authority  for federal  funds from  the [2021]                                                               
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:45:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS asked  whether those  provisions of  SB 414  are                                                               
included in the current Senate  Finance Committee CS which rolled                                                               
in many provisions of SB 414.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY replied that they were,  but he doesn't know about the                                                               
current [CS].                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  resumed his testimony.   He said that in  addition to                                                               
federal  funding and  utility contributions  it  is likely  there                                                               
will have to be state funding for some of the transmission.                                                                     
Building  out that  level of  transmission could  be done  by the                                                               
utilities, he  stated, but  it would  result in  significant rate                                                               
increases, so it  is really beyond the  financial capabilities of                                                               
the Railbelt at this point.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ESTEY interjected  that [the  utilities]  disagree with  any                                                               
statements that  $20 per  MWh is  not a steep  enough fine.   She                                                               
said the  utilities are nonprofit  cooperatives that do  not have                                                               
shareholders from which  to grab fine payments.   The fines would                                                               
be paid by cooperative members  somehow, whether through rates or                                                               
through margins, which are the  capital credits.  She pointed out                                                               
that any  fine, especially one at  $20 per MWh, would  be paid on                                                               
top of  the large  amount that the  utilities are  already paying                                                               
for gas-powered  generation.   So, she continued,  a fine  of $20                                                               
per MWh  would be more  than an  adequate deterrent for  a member                                                               
owned cooperative.  Many of  the member owned cooperatives in the                                                               
Lower 48 are exempt from these sorts of requirements, she noted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY added that including it  in rates as opposed to taking                                                               
it out  of the  cooperatives' margins is  critical.   He recalled                                                               
discussion in  the House  Special Committee  on Energy  that some                                                               
items  are  not  allowed  in   rates,  such  as  advertising  for                                                               
lobbyists.   He  specified that  Chugach's margins  in 2021  were                                                               
about $9.7 million, so Chugach's  portion of a 30 percent penalty                                                               
for missing  the target would be  $4.5 million.  That  would move                                                               
Chugach into areas  where its bond debt  covenants, which require                                                               
Chugach to collect  110 percent of its margins  for interest over                                                               
interest, would push the cooperative  into a realm where it could                                                               
go into  technical default.   The  RCA is  required to  set rates                                                               
under  AS 42.05.431  that  allow [a  public  utility] to  recover                                                               
costs that are  contracted for in bond covenants;  so, Mr. Hickey                                                               
advised,  there  is  a  dichotomy   there.    The  challenge,  he                                                               
continued, is that this number  is much bigger than anything that                                                               
is  currently  disallowed   in  rates  for  a   cooperative.    A                                                               
cooperative's margins are razor  thin because cooperatives return                                                               
that money  to their members.   Not having it recovered  in rates                                                               
and  trying to  recover it  out  of capital  credits, he  stated,                                                               
could push the utilities into difficult financial straits.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  related that it was  brought up in the  House Special                                                               
Committee on Energy  and in the NREL study  that utilities should                                                               
be able to  put large quantities of wind and  solar on the system                                                               
and shut  down their gas  turbines for extended periods  of time.                                                               
The challenge  with that on  the Railbelt, he explained,  is that                                                               
there are minimum  deliverability takes out of the  inlet to keep                                                               
the  wells producing  natural gas.   The  home heating  sector is                                                               
still  drawing gas,  but as  gas turbines  are shut  down and  as                                                               
deliverability  is shut  down, it  is likely  that deliverability                                                               
will be lost  in the basin, which will increase  both the cost of                                                               
gas and the availability of it.   So, Mr. Hickey continued, while                                                               
this concept  works well at the  one-hundred-thousand-foot level,                                                               
when getting down into the details  it must be figured out how to                                                               
transition off Cook  Inlet natural gas without  losing Cook Inlet                                                               
natural  gas altogether.   This  critical component,  he advised,                                                               
must be addressed in the CS.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:50:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ESTEY stated  that the  utilities  have consistently  voiced                                                               
what they  feel is necessary,  such as rate caps  and reliability                                                               
assurances.   She said CSHB 301(ENE)  includes considerations for                                                               
the RCA  to keep  an eye on  that and it  is anticipated  the RCA                                                               
would write  detailed regulations to spell  that out.  It  is the                                                               
RCA's  responsibility   to  look  after  the   rate  impacts  and                                                               
reliability of  the utilities, she continued,  so [CSHB 301(ENE)]                                                               
assures that that is happening.   She related that the regulatory                                                               
commissions in  other places can  adjust the  renewable portfolio                                                               
standard (RPS)  if it  is felt  that the RPS  is going  above and                                                               
beyond what is  needed.  However, she stressed, that  is not what                                                               
is being  asked for  here, it  is just being  asked that  the RCA                                                               
raise its  hand or put  on guardrails.   Currently, most  of [the                                                               
Railbelt's] renewables are above the  costs of producing with gas                                                               
generation,  and everyone  is  banking on  that  shifting in  the                                                               
future.   If  it doesn't  shift, then  it is  the members  of the                                                               
cooperatives who  are holding the  bag, Ms. Estey stated.   Given                                                               
it  is already  the RCA's  responsibility  to look  at rates  and                                                               
reliability,  putting some  guardrails on  what is  acceptable is                                                               
important to  everyone, she continued.   So, the changes  made by                                                               
the House  Special Committee on  Energy are appreciated  and [the                                                               
cooperatives] look forward  to the RCA creating more.   She again                                                               
touched on  the idea of  putting the  feedback loop from  the ERO                                                               
process into  the clean  energy standard.   Regarding  fines, she                                                               
related that  under the current  CS fines  are not allowed  to be                                                               
recovered in  rates.  She  reiterated that  without shareholders,                                                               
cooperatives  only have  rates  and margins  from  which to  pull                                                               
funding.   Margins  are what  is  left over,  she explained,  and                                                               
those  get reinvested  back into  the cooperative  and eventually                                                               
paid  out as  capital credits.   So,  either way  it impacts  the                                                               
members of  the cooperatives.   She expressed  her hope  that the                                                               
committee discusses this further.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  said he intends  to write an amendment  on that.                                                               
He  stated  that  the  fines  would be  put  back  into  building                                                               
renewable  generation so  it meets  the purpose  of the  bill and                                                               
would be clear to consumers.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  noted that a  chart distributed  to committee                                                               
members shows  a significant  decline in  Cook Inlet  natural gas                                                               
usage taking  place over the last  20 years.  She  inquired about                                                               
the number  of years  left for  being able  to reliably  count on                                                               
Cook Inlet natural gas to provide energy to the Railbelt.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY replied  that her limited understanding is  that it may                                                               
not be  what is called  "behind pipe."   There is gas,  she said,                                                               
but there  would be a  cost for  getting that gas  connected into                                                               
the system and delivered, and decisions  would have to be made as                                                               
to whether those costs are economically worth it.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY added that significant  investment of Cook Inlet would                                                               
be needed to  get gas behind pipe and maintain  the gas fields or                                                               
else go  a different  way, such  as [the  proposed Susitna-Watana                                                               
Hydroelectric Project]  and Dixon Creek  to bridge that gap.   He                                                               
said there is solar  and wind that could be used  to fill in some                                                               
of the gaps, so that transition is necessary.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. ESTEY added  that that is why the energy  portfolio should be                                                               
diversified.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:55:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ commented  that a  key question  on the  time                                                               
horizon for  the renewable energy  portfolio standard  is looking                                                               
at  where  to make  capital  investments  during the  transition.                                                               
Rate payers  across Alaska are going  to pay one way  or another,                                                               
she  stated,  and  a  question  is  whether  to  accelerate  that                                                               
transition to renewables while trying  to maintain reliability or                                                               
whether  it  is  more  economic   and  worth  the  higher  carbon                                                               
footprint of  developing natural  gas moving  forward.   She said                                                               
she wants  to look at  both versions of  the bill so  that policy                                                               
makers can make a calculated decision for the people of Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY advised that a  provision in [CSHB 301(ENE)] regarding                                                               
a  levelized  wheeling  rate  for   renewable  energy  creates  a                                                               
conflict  between  AS 42.05.431(c),  which  is  the Bradley  Lake                                                               
exemption.  Bradley  Lake, he noted, would be  considered a clean                                                               
energy resource under this bill.   The agreements for the Bradley                                                               
Lake Project, he said, are not  regulated by the RCA as they were                                                               
exempted under AS 42.05.431(c)(1).   The challenge, he explained,                                                               
is  that a  very complex  set  of agreements  negotiated in  1980                                                               
govern the wheeling and delivery of  Bradley Lake energy.  If the                                                               
current  bill is  passed, he  continued, there  would a  conflict                                                               
between the Bradley  Lake exemption and the bill  that would then                                                               
have to be  figured out.  Mr. Hickey suggested  amending the bill                                                               
to reflect projects  that are built on a going  forward basis and                                                               
leave  projects that  have existing  wheeling arrangements  which                                                               
are very intricate and tied  together and that are very difficult                                                               
to unwind.   That  specific statute, he  added, was  upheld after                                                               
several years of litigation by the Alaska Supreme Court in 2019.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ESTEY  pointed out  that  [CSHB  301(ENE)] includes  a  very                                                               
prescriptive  list of  what things  are acceptable  and what  are                                                               
not.   She emphasized  that it is  hard to sit  here in  2022 and                                                               
know what  should be  on this  list decades in  the future.   She                                                               
suggested that the bill include  a provision for review every two                                                               
to  three years  by  an  independent source,  whether  it is  the                                                               
Alaska  Energy  Authority, the  RCA,  or  the Alaska  Center  for                                                               
Energy and  Power.  She related  that this was also  supported by                                                               
the  REAP  board  during  discussions   about  looking  at  these                                                               
technologies  and not  limiting because  there  is a  lot on  the                                                               
horizon and  there needs to be  the ability to take  advantage of                                                               
everything.   This topic was  discussed before the  House Special                                                               
Committee  on Energy,  she noted,  and the  decision was  made to                                                               
have more conversation about it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:59:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALAN MITCHELL, Owner, Analysis  North, provided invited testimony                                                               
during the hearing on  HB 301.  He stated he  has been working on                                                               
technical and  economic analysis  of energy and  telecom projects                                                               
for over  30 years  in Alaska.   He displayed  the first  of four                                                               
slides,  "Preliminary Economic  Analysis  of  Railbelt RPS,"  and                                                               
noted that this  preliminary analysis was not done  for REAP, but                                                               
rather on  his own and no  payment was received from  anyone.  He                                                               
said he  agrees with Ms.  Estey about getting  NREL to do  a more                                                               
serious economic  analysis.   He explained  that NREL  mapped out                                                               
five  different routes  for achieving  the  80 percent  renewable                                                               
standard  in the  Railbelt  from which  he  picked [Scenario  3],                                                               
which predominantly  relies on  wind and  solar as  the renewable                                                               
means to get  to that 80 percent.   He said that  in his analysis                                                               
he did not  change anything in the  work NREL did, but  he went a                                                               
step further  by taking NREL's  results for how much  capacity of                                                               
wind  would be  needed to  achieve the  80 percent  and how  much                                                               
capacity of solar and assigning  some preliminary benefit in cost                                                               
numbers to that scenario.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL proceeded  to  slide  2, "Preliminary  Benefit/Cost                                                               
Analysis,"  and explained  that the  graph  is a  summary of  the                                                               
benefits  and the  costs  that he  came  up with.    He said  his                                                               
estimate is $3.2  billion in capital cost  to implement [Scenario                                                               
3], and  his estimate is  $6.7 billion in present  value benefits                                                               
over the life  of these investments, which he estimates  to be 22                                                               
years.   He arrived at $6.7  billion, he explained, by  adding up                                                               
the fuel  savings, which were done  by NREL and which  he did not                                                               
modify, with proper discounting over  that 22-year life.  He said                                                               
he did reduce those fuel  savings somewhat by the added operating                                                               
and  maintenance  costs  of the  renewable  facilities  required.                                                               
Benefits far exceed  the costs, Mr. Mitchell stated,  and even if                                                               
the capital cost was doubled a net benefit would still be seen.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL moved  to slide  3,  "Capital Costs  of Scenario  3                                                               
relative to Base Case," and  gave further detail on the estimated                                                               
capital costs.  He said  the right-most column of numbers depicts                                                               
the  total   cost  [in  billions]   for  each   renewable  energy                                                               
generation source  [wind - $2.34,  solar - $0.80, add  turbine to                                                               
Bradley  Lake -  $0.09,  biomass  - $0.22,  fossil  fuel    minus                                                               
$0.21,  totaling $3.24].   He  noted that  the bar  chart to  the                                                               
right  of those  numbers depicts  the relative  magnitude of  the                                                               
different  sources, and  the capital  costs  for this  wind-solar                                                               
scenario are  dominated by wind and  solar.  He pointed  out that                                                               
no  transmission  and battery  storage  costs  are in  the  table                                                               
because NREL  assumed that both transmission  and battery storage                                                               
would be built in the status  quo case, in the nonrenewable case,                                                               
and in all the renewable cases,  so it was a common investment to                                                               
everything.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL  continued  reviewing  slide 3.    He  stated  that                                                               
Scenario 3  adds 802 megawatts  of wind,  but NREL did  not state                                                               
what that  would cost.   He  said he  therefore looked  at Golden                                                               
Valley Electric's Eva Creek Wind  Farm, brought online in 2012 at                                                               
a cost of  about $1.94 [per kilowatt], which was  a bit less than                                                               
twice the  cost per kilowatt  of the national average  wind farm.                                                               
He  took the  1.94 multiplier,  he explained,  and applied  it to                                                               
current  day national  average  wind costs,  so  his estimate  is                                                               
roughly twice the  current capital cost per kilowatt  for wind in                                                               
the Lower 48.  Similarly for  solar, he continued, he used a 1.46                                                               
multiplier,  which   is  consistent  with  the   publicly  stated                                                               
estimate of the proposed Homer Electric 20-megawatt solar farm.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL  turned  to  slide   4,  "Benefits  that  were  Not                                                             
Considered in the Analysis."   He stated that several things make                                                               
his analysis on  the conservative side.  First,  while solar cost                                                               
has declined 85  percent since 2010 [adjusted  for inflation] and                                                               
wind cost has  declined 65 percent, he said his  analysis did not                                                               
assume any further decline in solar  and wind cost even though he                                                               
thinks there will  be and most of these  renewable investments to                                                               
implement Scenario 3 will occur 5-20  years from now.  Second, he                                                               
stated,  these renewable  projects are  going to  save fuel  well                                                               
past 2040,  but he did not  project fuel prices to  increase more                                                               
than just  the general  rate of inflation  beyond the  year 2040.                                                               
Further, he  continued, he  didn't take  any economic  credit for                                                               
the  reduced  carbon emissions  that  these  projects will  bring                                                               
about,  so he  didn't assume  that carbon  tax would  be avoided.                                                               
Finally, he  specified, he didn't  factor in any sort  of federal                                                               
subsidies  for  the  renewable  projects,  he  assumed  that  the                                                               
projects were entirely funded by Alaskans.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:07:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIN  MCKITTRICK,  Co-Founder,  Ground Truth  Trekking,  provided                                                               
invited testimony during  the hearing on HB 301.   She noted that                                                               
while she is a board  member of Homer Electric Association (HEA),                                                               
her testimony today is on behalf of  herself.  She said she has a                                                               
deep interest in energy and  has done independent analysis of the                                                               
Railbelt system  looking at such  things as the economics  of the                                                               
current  system and  carbon  emissions.   Having  a clean  energy                                                               
standard  is  important,  she  stressed,  and  good  for  Alaskan                                                               
consumers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCKITTRICK  reviewed two graphs  to provide background.   She                                                               
stated that the Railbelt's generation  system hasn't changed much                                                               
in  the  last   decade  but  the  circumstances   around  it  are                                                               
different.   She  referred to  the graph  titled "Cook  Inlet Gas                                                               
usage" [for the  years 2000-2020] and said that when  lots of gas                                                               
was  being  produced  in  Cook  Inlet for  a  big  market,  which                                                               
included Agrium  and exports,  the local  users were  just "along                                                               
for the ride, almost an  afterthought."  A steep decline occurred                                                               
as that  became less  and less  economically viable,  she stated,                                                               
and now it is  down to a small market that  is mostly Enstar, the                                                               
electric utilities,  and the  oil and gas  industry itself.   She                                                               
referred  to  the  graph  titled  "State  Subsidies  vs.  Utility                                                               
Purchases of  Gas" and said  it looks  at the state  tax credits.                                                               
She pointed out  that when talking about the  current system, the                                                               
price of gas, and what is going  to happen in the future, it must                                                               
be  remembered that  steps have  already  been taken  to avert  a                                                               
local  energy crisis  with substantial  state money.   She  noted                                                               
that the yellow bars represent  $1.3 billion [in tax credits paid                                                               
by the state], and during  several years the state subsidies were                                                               
more than  what all  the utilities were  paying together.   While                                                               
there is  gas out  there, Ms. McKittrick  continued, it  might be                                                               
more costly to  get it to people.   The state may well  be on the                                                               
hook for  more rescues, she  said, and diversifying  fuel sources                                                               
and investing  in renewable energy projects  instead are tangible                                                               
things going  forward, given nobody  knows how long  the relative                                                               
price stabilization from those subsidies will last.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:11:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCKITTRICK  addressed earlier testimony about  the importance                                                               
of utilities  working together for  a better economy of  scale in                                                               
building  a project  that serves  more than  one utility.   Often                                                               
necessary in that coordination, she  said, is moving power around                                                               
between the different  utilities.  Transmission is  part of that,                                                               
she stated,  and she concurs  with the NREL  study's anticipation                                                               
that transmission  upgrades would be  necessary to reach  that 80                                                               
percent number.   She pointed  out that due  to lack of  time the                                                               
NREL  study did  not look  at lower,  more intermediate  targets.                                                               
She advised that lots of renewable  energy can be built, and that                                                               
power transferred  on the  grid as  it is  now, while  working on                                                               
building the other things.   For example, Ms. McKittrick related,                                                               
Homer Electric  Association has  a rule  of 50  percent renewable                                                               
energy by 2025  and anticipates that that is  possible before new                                                               
transmission  is  built.    She  further  pointed  out  that  the                                                               
constraints on  the current transmission  system aren't  true for                                                               
every  direction.   If  a line  is  full going  north  it is  not                                                               
necessarily  full going  south,  she explained,  so depending  on                                                               
where a  project is  put, a  lot of power  can be  transferred on                                                               
those  lines.   It isn't  necessary, she  continued, to  wait for                                                               
those transmission improvements to start down this path.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCKITTRICK,  regarding the Bradley Lake  agreements affecting                                                               
transmission wheeling,  stated it is  important to have  a simple                                                               
unified  rate going  forward to  transfer  this renewable  energy                                                               
along existing  power lines.   She said she doesn't  know whether                                                               
it would  be necessary  to specifically  exclude Bradley  Lake to                                                               
avoid legal  conflicts, but she  imagines that it could  be done.                                                               
Bradley Lake,  she continued, is specifically  excluded from many                                                               
of  the things  she has  mentioned regarding  what could  be done                                                               
without destroying the  intent of freely moving  power from other                                                               
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCKITTRICK  drew attention  to the  provision that  would let                                                               
utilities trade  credits for clean  power.  She stated  that this                                                               
works  between  the Railbelt  utilities,  but  the House  Special                                                               
Committee  on Energy's  CS modified  that to  be statewide.   She                                                               
offered her belief that the  intention was to potentially provide                                                               
some benefits  to rural  Alaska but  cautioned that,  as written,                                                               
the provision could have substantial  unintended consequences.  A                                                               
large amount of  renewable energy, she explained,  is produced by                                                               
about  nine  hydroelectric  projects   in  Southeast  Alaska  and                                                               
Kodiak, so if  any renewable energy in the state  could help meet                                                               
these goals there would be  incentive for those utilities to sell                                                               
those  credits  cheaply  and   it  wouldn't  necessarily  benefit                                                               
anyone.  Those  places have cheaper power than  the Railbelt, she                                                               
noted, and they  don't really need to build  more renewable power                                                               
themselves in  many cases  because they  already are  pretty much                                                               
running on  hydro.   Ms. McKittrick  suggested that  this problem                                                               
could be  solved by modifying the  credit system to be  either on                                                               
the Railbelt  or utilities that  are eligible for the  Power Cost                                                               
Equalization  (PCE) Program.   Those  are  small rural  utilities                                                               
with  high costs,  she added,  and  their total  amount of  power                                                               
generation  is much  smaller so  they could  sell credits  in the                                                               
Railbelt but still build projects.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:17:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCKITTRICK said looking at  costs is important and looking at                                                               
fuel savings is key because  current power generation [in Alaska]                                                               
is so expensive in many cases  that it might be possible to build                                                               
and operate a  renewable project for the fuel cost  of running an                                                               
existing plant.  Existing plants do  not have to be taken off the                                                               
books or dismantled,  she stated, it makes sense to  keep them as                                                               
backups when building new  more efficient nonrenewable generation                                                               
or building renewable  generation.  There is no need  to wait for                                                               
existing plants to be at the end of their lives, she added.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  asked Ms. McKittrick  to provide  her suggestion                                                               
for credits by email to the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  noted that  certain areas such  as Kodiak                                                               
have  more resources  and certain  areas  do not  have access  to                                                               
renewable energy.   He requested  comment on that  aspect because                                                               
it doesn't appear that one thing fits all.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MCKITTRICK  responded  that  this standard  applies  to  the                                                               
Railbelt  which is  all tied  together and  has enough  renewable                                                               
resources to meet this.  She said  the credit system is a way, in                                                               
lieu of  meeting some  portion of that  standard, to  buy credits                                                               
from  another utility  elsewhere in  Alaska, so  presumably those                                                               
villages or  other areas  that had  access [to  renewables] could                                                               
sell those  credits.  This  bill would  not solve the  problem of                                                               
providing energy to  all villages, she continued;  it is intended                                                               
to  focus on  the  Railbelt  so doesn't  attempt  to answer  that                                                               
question  about  what  villages   with  no  access  to  renewable                                                               
resources should do.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:21:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN  JOHNSTON,  Staff,  Representative  Calvin  Schrage,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, presented the summary  of changes made in CSHB
301(ENE) on behalf of the House  Special Committee on Energy.  He                                                               
paraphrased  from the  document  in the  committee packet  titled                                                               
"Summary of Changes  for HB 301 (Version A to  W)," which read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1,  Lines 1   3:  amends the title to  read "clean                                                                  
     energy  standard"  and  adds "relating  to  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Energy  Authority and  clean energy  projects;" to  the                                                                    
     title  of  the  bill.  The title  change  was  done  to                                                                    
     conform with  the "renewable portfolio"  standard being                                                                    
     replaced with a "clean" energy portfolio.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, Lines 9    11: after "energy resources" adds to                                                                  
     the purpose section of the  bill, "in order to minimize                                                                    
     costs  to consumers,  increase  stability for  economic                                                                    
     development,  maximize  grid resiliency,  and  minimize                                                                    
     the state's carbon emissions."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1,  Line 14:  adds a new  section to  AS 42.05.381                                                                  
     that  directs the  Electrical Reliability  Organization                                                                    
     to  develop a  uniform transmission  services rate  for                                                                    
     the  transmission of  energy to  comply with  the clean                                                                    
     energy standard under AS 42.05.900.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSTON clarified that for  the new section to AS 42.05.381,                                                               
any energy transmission done from  the generation of clean energy                                                               
would  be covered  under that  transmission  tariff and  anything                                                               
existing currently  from normal production would  not be covered.                                                               
He continued paraphrasing from the summary of changes:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page  2, Line  15:  amends subsection  (B)  to be  more                                                                  
     aligned with utility industry language.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page  3,  Line  27      Page  4,  Line  3:  amends  the                                                                  
     benchmarks for  the clean energy standard  to from four                                                                    
     to three. The first being  25 [percent] by December 31,                                                                    
     2030.  The second  being 55  [percent] by  December 31,                                                                    
     2040.  And finally,  the third  being  80 [percent]  by                                                                    
     December 31,  2050. The third benchmark  was amended to                                                                    
     now only  be applied Railbelt  wide instead of  by each                                                                    
     utility.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page  4, Lines  18     23: adds  a  new  section to  AS                                                                  
     42.05.900 that  would allow  for construction  that has                                                                    
     begun prior  to the  end of a  compliance period  to be                                                                    
     counted to fulfilling the clean  energy standard if the                                                                    
     project will  begin providing energy no  later than two                                                                    
     years  after the  compliance  period or  the  end of  a                                                                    
     period  determined  by  the  Regulatory  Commission  of                                                                    
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSTON explained that this  new section to AS 42.05.900 was                                                               
added to give  more leeway for larger  construction projects that                                                               
would potentially  happen so  the RCA would  have the  ability to                                                               
determine that time period.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:24:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS asked  whether  he is  correct in  understanding                                                               
that if the deadline  is 25 percent by 2030 and  there is a large                                                               
project  that would  get to  25 percent,  but it  is still  being                                                               
developed and not actually producing  by 2030, then the utilities                                                               
are meeting the requirements.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSTON that  is correct; technically if it  fell within the                                                               
two-year period it would be fine.   The gray area, he said, would                                                               
be if  it was going to  fall after the two-year  period, then the                                                               
utilities would  have to make  a case  with the RCA  to determine                                                               
the period of time in which it could comply.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSTON continued paraphrasing from the summary of changes:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page  5, Line  2: adds  a new  section to  AS 42.05.900                                                                  
     stating  that a  load  serving entity  may satisfy  the                                                                    
     clean energy standard using clean energy credits.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page  5, Line  4: adds  a new  section to  AS 42.05.900                                                                  
     that  a project  located wholly  or partially  on state                                                                    
     lands are exempted from state lease fees.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page  5, Line  20: adds  a new  section to  empower the                                                                  
     Regulatory Commission  of Alaska to monitor  the effect                                                                    
     of the  clean energy standard on  rates and reliability                                                                    
     to determine if it if consistent with the public good.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, Line  23   Page 6, Line 4:  amends the previous                                                                  
     credit system into the "Clean  energy Credits". A clean                                                                    
     energy credit  may only be  used once. A credit  may be                                                                    
     used to  comply with the clean  energy standard without                                                                    
     purchasing  or use  of the  electrical generation  from                                                                    
     which the credit is derived.  The energy from which the                                                                    
     credit is  derived must  be generated  in the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNSTON  pointed out  that  the  credits-based system  [was                                                               
changed in  the CS] to  focus on the  whole of Alaska  instead of                                                               
just the Railbelt as was provided in the original version.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  referenced Ms.  McKittrick's comments  and asked                                                               
whether  current   language  states  that  existing   hydro  from                                                               
Southeast could  be counted or  whether new language needs  to be                                                               
added to clarify that this is only new generation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSTON  responded that under  current language it  could be                                                               
existing  or new  projects.    He related  that  there have  been                                                               
conversations  about potentially  scaling this  down because  the                                                               
intent  of the  amendment  was  to create  a  link between  rural                                                               
Alaska and the  Railbelt since the bill is so  heavily focused on                                                               
the Railbelt, and then creating  a credit system that would allow                                                               
a  revenue stream  for Alaska's  small rural  power producers  to                                                               
participate in a clean energy standard.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS stated  that that is a change  the committee will                                                               
need to  pursue.  The  idea, he said,  is that the  most economic                                                               
project might be  in Bethel or Southeast and  encouraging that is                                                               
wanted, but  to not  count everything that  is already  there and                                                               
thereby do nothing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSTON continued paraphrasing from the summary of changes:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page  7, Line  6: after  "commission" changed  the word                                                                  
     "may" to "shall".                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 7, Lines  16   20: amends  the previous exemptions                                                                  
     section  to  a  single  exception.  The  new  exemption                                                                    
     states that  if the Railbelt achieves  the clean energy                                                                    
     standard than the individual  load serving entities are                                                                    
     exempted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 7,  Lines 24   28:  adds a definition of  a "clean                                                                  
     energy credit".                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 7,  Line 29: Amended the  definition of "renewable                                                                  
     energy  resource" and  renamed "clean  energy resource"                                                                    
     was cleaned up by legislative  legal to be more in line                                                                    
     with   their  drafting   standards  and   the  previous                                                                    
     committee added nuclear generation to the definition.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 8, Lines 6    8: amends the previous definition of                                                                  
     "renewable  energy  standard"  to be  a  "clean  energy                                                                    
     standard" and reordered it in the definitions section.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 8, Line 11: amends  the compliance period to a 10-                                                                  
     year period.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page  8,  Line   26:  adds  a  new   subsection  to  AS                                                                  
     44.83.940. The  new subsection  would require  that the                                                                    
     Alaska Energy  Authority shall provide a  report to the                                                                    
     legislature every two years  on the progress developing                                                                    
     renewable and clean energy resources in rural parts of                                                                     
     the state.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 9,  Line 3: the  regulations language for  the RCA                                                                  
     of Alaska  was cleaned  up by  legislative legal  to be                                                                    
     more  in   line  with  their  drafting   standards  and                                                                    
     existing powers of the RCA.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:30:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  asked about the change  in nomenclature                                                               
from renewable energy  resource to clean energy  resource and why                                                               
"clean" is being used as opposed to "renewable."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSTON answered  that with the addition of  nuclear it made                                                               
more sense to set the  precedent with clean rather than renewable                                                               
because it is generally not  accepted that nuclear is a renewable                                                               
energy resource, but it is considered a clean energy resource.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ agreed that that makes sense.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSTON  noted that NREL  recently provided a  cost estimate                                                               
and a  time period  breakdown, which  he will  pass along  to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  related that  the  House  Special Committee  on                                                               
Energy heard this bill extensively for about two months.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[HB 301 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 301 Transmittal Letter 2.1.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Ver. A 2.4.22.PDF HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 CS (Energy) ver W. 4.29.22.PDF HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Sectional Analysis Ver A 2.1.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Summary of Changes ver A to ver W 5.2.2022.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Fiscal Note DCCED - RCA 2.1.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Analysis North Presentation 5.2.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 REAP Presentation 5.2.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Supporting Docment - RPS&CES Country-Wide Breakdown 5.2.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Supporting Document - Other State Benchmarks and Statutes 5.2.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
SB 190 Amendment #1 - Fields 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
SB 190
SB 190 Testimony - AKPIRG 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
SB 190
HB 382 Version A 4.29.22.PDF HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
CSHB 382 Version B 4.29.22.PDF HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Sectional Analysis Ver. B 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Sponsor Statement Version B 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Summary of Changes Version B 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Support Document - ADA Insulin Fact Sheet 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Letter of Opposition - AHIP 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Kentucky Fiscal Note 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Research - Health Care Cost Institute Study on Spending on Individuals With Type 1 Diabetes 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Support Document - ADA Alaska Diabetes Fact Sheet 4.29.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 382
HB 301 Testimony Document - Erin Mckittrick 5.2.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301
HB 301 Testimony Document 2 - Erin Mckittrick 5.2.22.pdf HL&C 5/2/2022 3:15:00 PM
HB 301